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marzipan77 ([personal profile] marzipan77) wrote2019-01-15 08:51 am

Nostalgia can be bitter

Day 14: In your own space, talk about what you think the future holds for fandom. Leave a comment in this post saying you did it. Include a link to your post if you feel comfortable doing so.

This one...

I miss the days of Yahoo groups, when Stargate fans could and would chat for hours, discussing eps, characters, fics, dispensing challenges, getting dozens of responses for every post. I miss all of the myriad Stargate sites that have disappeared over the past few years. I miss seeing the stars at conventions, seeing all the thousands of fans wait in long lines for autographs. It's an era that's over, and that is difficult to accept.

My fandom is aging. As am I.

I'll never leave Stargate fandom, but my fics, my discussions, are fewer. I have a core group who continue to do re-watches and discussions, who will always have a read of something I write, but the excitement, the immediacy of fandom has passed on to a gentler, nostalgic vibe. After all, real life situations of health and family care have changed quite a bit since the show (SG1) aired in 1997 (22 years ago, how did THAT happen?). We've changed, the internet has changed, so fandom has changed.

I'm grateful for AO3, for Dreamwidth, even for Facebook and Twitter some days. Who knows what the next big thing on the internet will be. But, my hope is more wistful than anticipating. Wondering.

What worries me is that, back in the day, the internet brought us together. We gathered on-line, became friends, family, brothers and sisters - and then we made plans to meet in real life. To touch hands, to look into each other's eyes, to connect more thouroughly. But it seems our younger society does not use the internet that way. They prefer distance. To stay in their homes and rarely venture out. Order food. Order clothes. Talk to a doctor. Physical presence is considered drudgery, a chore, and a hated chore, at that.

Interaction on the internet is also more problematic. One misspoken (typed) word can get you treated as a criminal. One accusation is enough to black-list any artist. One tongue-in-cheek tweet can get you shunned and cursed at. Honest discussion, with people that can disagree sincerely and yet respectfully is all but eliminated. Feelings are hurt by the lightest breeze of discord.

Media is also changing. The characters are less compelling. The remakes are horrendous. The writing is awful. I cannot think of a new fandom I've been interested in for quite some time, not one that hasn't fizzled out because of what I just mentioned above. They treat my old fandom loves with scorn and dismissal - making parodies to mock them rather than homages. My fandoms are old, like me, I guess. While others are excited about GoT or Vikings, I feel like that curmudgeonly old grump who lives on the corner and yells at the kids to get off my lawn!

On another day I might be more hopeful for fandom. I do hope fanfic writers write - safely posting for the joy of others. I hope fanartists create. Poets versify. Meta-analysts do that thing. I hope there will always be a place to come together, like this, a place ruled by grace and compassion and empathy. A place for teens and moms and old curmudgeons like me to celebrate fandom in all of its odd, mismatched beauty.

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[personal profile] stellar_dust 2019-01-15 06:07 pm (UTC)(link)
<3 I hear you. I want the positives of the internet to outweigh the negatives, but there are definitely days when I'm not so sure.
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[personal profile] spikedluv 2019-01-15 07:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I sometimes feel like the new fandoms/fans have passed me by, too. Despite not feeling too hopeful today, I thought your post was very thought-provoking and I liked this: A place for teens and moms and old curmudgeons like me to celebrate fandom in all of its odd, mismatched beauty.
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[personal profile] prisca 2019-01-15 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't know what to say; I am almost teared up now. Maybe it is because I am feeling a bit nostalgic lately.

I can so understand what you are writing about. And I feel the same. For me, it was Lord of the Rings at the beginning, and later The Faculty. It was a great time but it is over, and even if we refuse to give up our love for 'our' fandom, we can't turn back the time. It is as if the time seems to fly quicker and quicker.

But like you I still refuse to give up hope that fandom love (in which way ever) will find a way to survive.
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[personal profile] annejack 2019-01-16 08:19 am (UTC)(link)
Oh how I can hear you and relate to this. I'm grateful to have that one yahoo-like-group (becaue it's groups.i.o, not yahoo, but it works like yahoo groups) that is still active (in spurts of low and semi-high). I don't know if there are any other SG related groups which are still active, but none of the other ones I'm a member off are active anymore.

I miss fandom as it used to be. I miss my corner of fandom as I used to know and love it. I miss all of that, but yeah... it's over. But like you, I keep hanging on and sometimes I'm hoping... or at least I try.

Huggles!
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[personal profile] quietmoon 2019-04-08 02:59 pm (UTC)(link)
To me, this read like a beautiful love letter to fandom. I'm quite emotional after reading that, although I don't have any of the experiences you do, having gotten into fandom recently in comparison (twilight on ffn.net was my first foray into this magical world).
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. ♥
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[personal profile] quietmoon 2019-04-13 09:07 am (UTC)(link)
I feel the same way. :>
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[personal profile] author_by_night 2019-06-09 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I saw you on electric_heart's DW and lurked, basically. I hope that's not weird.

Interaction on the internet is also more problematic. One misspoken (typed) word can get you treated as a criminal. One accusation is enough to black-list any artist. One tongue-in-cheek tweet can get you shunned and cursed at. Honest discussion, with people that can disagree sincerely and yet respectfully is all but eliminated. Feelings are hurt by the lightest breeze of discord.


That drives me nuts. And often it's not even misunderstandings, but people not reading. They read two words and decide you're terrible. Read everything word for word and then judge the person.

But really, there's no room to simply misunderstand, which is ironic especially given lack of tone and context on the internet. I say context too because you don't really know what vantage point the other person is coming from.

I also feel that the internet's just... lost its sense of fun. Including fandom, but no limited to that. I miss when people had nerdy, off-the-wall conversations. Now everything has to be so serious. I don't mean because of current events, I think there are a lot of things we NEED to talk about, I mean that instead of having conversations, we're posting pictures of food or talking about getting tires replaced. Those are great filler conversations, but what happened to fun and community?
Edited 2019-06-09 20:19 (UTC)
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[personal profile] author_by_night 2019-06-10 11:49 am (UTC)(link)
Hi!

Yeah, and the irony is that there's all this emphasis on "being real." But sometimes just sticking to the basic things makes it hard to truly connect. You know? I feel like wtih my closest friendships, food pictures and cat videos is secondary. There's a deeper connection, a deeper knowledge, I guess you could say. Also, because I'm more connected with them, I think I care more that they got cat food. If that makes sense?
Edited 2019-06-10 11:50 (UTC)
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[personal profile] author_by_night 2019-06-10 12:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I have to say, even here I notice that my more fandomy or more conversation-oriented (if not fandomy) posts get way fewer comments than "here's something rather small and annoying" posts. Or they'll get comments where I feel some people... clearly didn't actually read the post, based on their comments. I saw a post on FandomSecrets this weekend where the person missed when blogging was nerdier, and I agree with that SO hard.
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[personal profile] braveheartlove 2019-06-15 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
So I know this was posted several months ago, but I have to say I very much agree. Especially with this line:"I hope there will always be a place to come together, like this, a place ruled by grace and compassion and empathy." That is my hope as well.

I am actually new to the fandom. I only just saw Stargate a year ago, and I fell in love with it since. I've since dabbled in writing, something I have never done before, but have found I love it. My hope has been in joining the fandom is to be what I want it to be: a place to have fun, to grow personally and as a writer, and spread just a bit of fun, as well as encourage thoughtful discussion. For my part, I want it to be safe, fun and enjoyable for everyone. :)
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[personal profile] braveheartlove 2019-06-16 03:55 pm (UTC)(link)
My lovely hubby introduced me to Stagate, and at first I wasn't sure I liked it! The Goa'uld were so creepy... But somewhere a long the line, my heart connected to it, and when Meridian came around, I finally realized. Talk about ouch... Anyway, I am actually knee deep in one of your stories: No Stars to Wish On. So far it has been really good, but really heart breaking. I've read several others of your work as well, the most memorable being Phone Calls from John the Baptist. You are an excellent writer, and have given me food for thought, which is one of the bigger reasons I read Fan Fiction. While there are those I personally know, that enjoyed Stargate, none of them I would call real fans, ones I can talk "shop" with. So, led me to the internet, to Fignewton, and eventually to your fiction and your page. :) So thanks for the welcome! I certainly appreciate it. :)